Comments on 'Martin Whitmarsh Turns Impresario' on F1 Insight

Comment by patrick

01/10/2008 20:59:28

My thoughts exactly. This is meant to be a sport, not a circus. But if Whitmarsh is looking for ideas, how about letting the fans wander around the paddock in the evening after qualifying, and get up close to the cars? Unworkable? Well I don't remember it causing any trouble in the early 90s when I used to do it at Silverstone

Comment by Steven Roy

01/10/2008 21:02:00

To me this sounds like an ecomist who thinks he can control the supply side and the demand side will follow. The potential F1 audience works on Fridays. It doesn't matter how good the show is because there will never be more than a fraction of the target audience available to watch it. I think Whitmarsh is spending too much time with the FIA and it is affecting his thinking.

Comment by Clive

01/10/2008 21:12:42

Patrick: Certainly that idea has to be a strong attraction for those able to attend the event and it makes sense to re-introduce it. My idea is along similar lines but caters to the TV audience instead: let one team per Friday allow a TV crew full access to their pit and motor home, with entry to team meetings, interviews with drivers and personnel (including such lowly creatures as the mechanics) all aspects of the team, in fact. This would allow the public to gain a much greater insight into the workings of a F1 team, what it takes to win, why so many are employed, etc., and this would have a knock-on effect in making it easier for fans to understand the race itself.

Comment by Clive

01/10/2008 21:21:23

Steven: I know very little about Martin Whitmarsh apart from the fact he is Ron Dennis' chosen successor. On this evidence, Ron has made an inexplicable choice - but perhaps we should be generous and suppose that it is an idea thrashed out by all the team principles on the Sporting Group, Whitmarsh merely being their mouthpiece. But this would mean that they are all guilty of such a pointless suggestion and we would have to doubt the foresight of team managers in general. Perhaps it is a case of never letting the "experts" decide their own parameters, since they live in a little world of their own and have no grasp of the real world outside. Or maybe the pernicious influence of the FIA is much more powerful than we realised, as you suggest. Whatever the reason, it seems that I was wrong to put so much hope in FOTA and I should look elsewhere for any saviour of the sport.

Comment by Gusto

01/10/2008 22:12:18

Iam glad you picked up on this Clive because I thought it was April 1st and no-one had bothered to tell me.What are FOTA thinking,after coming out with stuff like this how do they think they can be taken seriously,and if this does occur,what team in there right mind will risk a multi million dollar car,3 days before the big race,for a million dollar prize that the driver wins.On a list of "To Do" for F1 this must come in at No137.Bernie must think Christmas has come early,and Max will tell everyone "Better the Devil you know".(I like the idea of the Dancing Girls though,throw in a roller skating monkey troupe,and you could be on to a winner;-)

Comment by Clive

01/10/2008 22:20:32

What really worries me, Gusto, is that Whitmarsh expected this to be taken seriously. Are they saving the good stuff until later or did they hit us with their best shot first? i don't even want to think about which it is...

Comment by Nick Goodspeed

01/10/2008 22:40:56

I hope this was said with the same tongue in cheek as the rally lights on the Singapore McLaren. Fridays Mosley and Ecclestone should rent a local auditorium to explain the previous week or two's outlandish rulings! In the evenings they should have an open question period. At the end of the year they can spend some of their extorted cash on therapy. cyNick

Comment by Gusto

02/10/2008 00:15:09

What worries me Clive,has the rot made its way through the entire ranks,eventually will we say `the FIA aint that bad,look at the dogs dinner that FOTA have created ,bring back the FIA`.As they say `Absolute power,corrupts absolutely`.I like Nick`s idea of some sort of accountability to there decisions,I heard that a Shrink once said to Bernie"Have you ever dreamed of Wolves"and he replied"I dreamt I was Gary Lineaker once....but that was when he played for Everton.(legal note....All people in this scenario are fictional,apart from the people who are are non fictional.....I think Iam getting the hang of the Lawyers speak eh;-)

Comment by Björn Svensson

02/10/2008 11:28:51

Well, if this is the place to come up with outlandish ideas, i would like to make some input. Why not put a timer on every car, and have it locking the steering wheel in place for two seconds every five minutes. That would surely give some spectacle, only problem is it would cost both drivers and cars. What the heck was they thinking, coming up with an idea as that one? What is needed is better racing, and fairer and faster judgment during the races. It should not take more than one or two replays to see whats wrong and what punishment should be suitable. Just look at Red Bull Air races, even though their stints are just around one minute long, the judges are done when the planes cross the finishline. And let's not forget to nag on about the aerodynamics, the less we have of that, the closer the racing will get.

Comment by Steven Roy

02/10/2008 12:26:01

We definitely need faster decisions. Sunday showed that there is a serious stewarding. Problem. 2 drivers enetered the pits when they were closed. Open and shut case - instant decision. Instead of telling Rosberg and Kubica to pit on the first flying lap after the safety car they waited so long that Rosberg came out in fourth place. His eventual podium position was entirely due to the incompetence of the stewards.

Comment by bmwf1guy

02/10/2008 13:48:24

Leave things alone is all. Statements like this actually scare me because in certain sports they actually begin to take them seriously and say 'hey, lets try that'. Now I'm not bashing the sport I'm about to mention, but it is an example of entertainment overkill where the main event is overshadowed by flair. 2 years ago I went to an NBA basketball game and was shocked at what went on. Before the game, loud music, contests, light shows, cheerleaders, and anything to get the fans wound up with this 'entertainment overkill'. Don't let the event become secondary to entertainment please.

Comment by Gusto

03/10/2008 02:13:56

Clive,if you fancy a laugh check out Red Bulls excuse why Webber`s car tried to select two gears at once,that must of been a mighty large tram.

Comment by Alianora La Canta

03/10/2008 13:12:30

Just as well road cars don't run Red Bull gearboxes in Sheffield - they have tram lines and trams on the roads themselves... Come to think of it, that might make more sense for increasing Friday entertainment than the idea FOTA have had. Seriously, Friday doesn't need improving. For those of us who watch it, the sessions are great fun (especially for those lucky enough to get an online feed to augment the live blogging and live timing). It's the other bits that are the problem.

Comment by Clive

03/10/2008 13:33:16

I think this whole episode shows F1's attitude to its fans - it cares nothing for those it has and looks only for new ones. Clearly, Bernie and Whitmarsh would be happy to dump us for idiots who know nothing of the sport and only want to see thrills and spills. And one can understand why; fans who know a thing or two can object to the way the sport is being mangled in order to make more and more money, whereas circus audiences don't care as long as there is plenty to make them ooh and ahh. I suppose I should not be surprised that even the team managers want to make more money but it is a bitter disillusionment for me. I agree completely with BMWF1guy - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. He runs a good blog (just been to have a look) and supports the right team! Take a gander if you have the time. As for the trams interfering with Red Bull's gearboxes, that is a novel excuse, I must say. Give 'em time and they won't let you take a cell phone into a GP. ;)

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